The Remarkable Journey from Disability to Health through Mental Power with Brandy Gillmore

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Have you ever considered the possibility that your mind might hold the key to relieving your physical pain? Brandy Gillmore joins me, Candace Fleming, for an eye-opening discussion that will challenge what you think you know about the healing process. Brandy's remarkable journey from relying on a wheelchair , walker, and cane to achieving a complete recovery is truly miraculous. Together, we unpack the complex relationship between our emotions and our physical health, and how understanding this connection can bring about significant health improvements for those grappling with chronic pain and illness.

We explore the established truths of the mind-body connection, understanding the impact of stress on the body. Going deeper, medical studies show that certain emotions can speed up healing. Furthermore, ample evidence demonstrates that individuals with multiple personalities can experience different illnesses when they switch between different personalities. From this we can more clearly see the transformative power of mindset, marvel at the tale of a woman whose throat tumor vanished overnight, and discuss why structured methods in emotional and physical self-healing can lead to lasting wellness.

If you're searching for motivation or validation that a supportive community can profoundly impact your journey to health, look no further. From the importance of recognizing and changing negative patterns to the remarkable potential of the mind in sparking self-transformation, this episode is packed with insights. Brandy and I extend an invitation to you to connect with us, share your experiences, and take that first step towards harnessing the power of your mind for healing. Remember to embrace life with passion, forgive with ease, and laugh heartily—your body might just thank you for it.

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Transcript

Candace Fleming: 0:06

Hello and welcome back to another episode of essential mental healing where I am your host, candace Fleming. I'm Candace Fleming, sorry guys Joining me today. I have a guest, Brandy Gillmore, who is going to talk to us about healing the pain within ourselves using our minds. Who knew how? Are you Brandi?

Brandy Gillmore: 0:31

I am doing fabulous. I just adore you and your big beautiful smile. I just I am fantastic and it's wonderful to be here.

Candace Fleming: 0:39

Thank you. Thank you so much, Brandy. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself, who you are and what we are going to hear about today?

Brandy Gillmore: 0:49

Absolutely. You know, I have to say, what I do today is literally the last thing that I ever thought that I would be doing. In short, I show people how to use their mind to heal their body, and it's fun. You can see it under medical equipment and it's absolutely mind blowing. I used to do network engineering and operations and I had an accident over 20 years ago now but it literally changed every area of my life.

Brandy Gillmore: 1:19

That's what I do is, when doctors told me I couldn't heal, or I wasn't going to heal or it's nothing they could do, I started figuring it out how to heal, and it's just truly incredible what our minds are capable of.

Candace Fleming: 1:31

Oh my goodness. So you had an accident over 20 years ago which changed a lot of your life. It put you in a wheelchair. Can you tell us a little bit about that so that we can know where we're starting from with the pain and then where we're at? Let's go a little bit through that story.

Brandy Gillmore: 1:53

Yeah, absolutely. In short, to summarize it, I was a train wreck. I went from working like a full job and living a full life to, basically, on a good day I could get around with my wheelchair or walker or cane. On a bad day, I didn't even make it out of bed. Many times I didn't even want to breathe. I was just in so much pain and despite the fact that I was on a handful of medication, from morphine and neurontin to lidoderm I'm just all of these medications and I just was still a mess and I wasn't healing. And that was my life, and so it was hard.

Candace Fleming: 2:35

Yeah, and I know you've done a lot of things trying to figure out how to get through that pain. You said you've done some meditation. You've done all of the things they tell you manifesting it and, like you said, drugs. You've done a lot of the different steps and it sounds like they did not work.

Brandy Gillmore: 2:56

Yeah, they did not work and kind of to expound upon that a bit I would have nerve ablations and maybe that could help decrease the pain for a little bit, or lighted derm push.

Brandy Gillmore: 3:09

So I had a lot of trigger point injections and nerve ablations and fusions, all of that, and even with things like meditation and whatnot, I could use them and I could get my pain to come down at times, but I did it for years and years and years and it didn't heal my body, it didn't change my life, and so it was an ongoing thing that I was stuck in. And when I say I did like meditation and whatnot, I mean I was meditating and visualizing and binaural beats and fan and face frequencies and sending energy and affirmations and chanting. I mean, when one thing didn't work, I would have another thing and another thing. For how many hours and hours a day? And that's what made me say okay. Well, the great thing was is that as I continue to research, I could see the evidence of the power of the mind. We can see the placebo is well known or the nocebo.

Candace Fleming: 4:06

What's a nocebo? Stress effects.

Brandy Gillmore: 4:08

I love that the nocebo is basically, if we believe that, like, okay, so simply put, a placebo is we could take a fake pill, and if we believe that it's going to do something for the body like maybe it's going to help lower blood pressure it can't.

Brandy Gillmore: 4:26

What's interesting is with the nocebo, if we believe it's going to affect the body negatively, it can do that too. The same fake pill, and so, yeah, so it's interesting when we stop and look at it. And so that was something to me that was profound is that we could see all of these different things, and I had tried just forcing myself to believe I was already better, and that didn't work either, because I thought to myself you know, the placebo is all about belief, but when it wasn't working and I was forcing myself to believe and believe and believe, well over a year, I was pushing myself. It wasn't working, and so I started researching and trying to figure out why and what else, and then I came across something called the open label placebo, which is exactly like it sounds. It's open label, so both the doctor and the patient both know it's fake and it still works, and I was like, wait a second. And it drove me to figure it out. You know why.

Candace Fleming: 5:37

So with this, what is it that you do different than the manifesting the like? How is it that you're able to? Because I've seen the studies. I've seen how people are in excruciating pain and a half hour later their pain has come down. First of all, that is the fastest non-medicine working thing I've ever heard in my life. To see the heat and I know you all can only hear us, but I'm going to plug this real quick. She has a book and it's got all the pictures and things, but we'll get to that in a moment, but you can see the heat radiation on the pain and how it shows. After the 30 minutes that pain is reduced so much. I mean like reduce a lot. I think maybe like 80% or so. It was a lot of decrease.

Brandy Gillmore: 6:28

And some of them took it all the way and kind of describe this for a moment for anybody who's listening is this is what I started doing is, once I healed myself, I thought people are going to think this is impossible and I want everybody to know that we have this ability, because I mean, there's 1.5 billion people who live in pain and even illness and all kinds of things I've seen at workforce.

Brandy Gillmore: 6:50

So I started trying to figure out how to show people, and at first I would take people out of pain and even when I was speaking on stages, I would, you know, pick people from the audience and show them how to release their pain, and everybody was always amazed and I thought, you know, I want to be able to figure out how to do this under medical equipment. And so what I started doing is there's this medical equipment called medical thermal imaging, and a simple way to describe it is if we think about, you know, somebody has a sprained ankle or an infection, it radiates heat and medical thermal imaging can be detect this heat at a very advanced level. And so what I would do is I started working initially with Dr Hillary Smith at Advanced Medical Thermography and I had her scan somebody who had a lot of neck pain and you could see on the scan where the neck area was just all red which shows pain and inflammation. And then I would work with somebody to use their own mind and you would see in real time as their red turned to green and their pain is gone.

Brandy Gillmore: 8:02

And even in the study that you were just talking about, candice is in that yet some people they would take their pain from a level five to a level one or point five or something like that, in 22 minutes. Or another person taking their pain from a six to a zero in 28 minutes, I believe, and so it's, but you can see it on the scan, and so that's what's really great, is it's incredible?

Candace Fleming: 8:24

Is it something that you have to continue to do to keep the pain away?

Brandy Gillmore: 8:29

That is such a great question, and the answer is yes and no and yes. So the number one answer is like. I haven't had to do anything for my healing my physical healing years and years and years, and years and years. You know, I've been healed for more than 14 years, and I haven't had to do anything now, and I've had people where I'll show them how to use their mind. They embody the change, and it's done Like. Even on my website, there's a video of a woman where I did this, and the video was from like eight years ago, and her neck pain never came back.

Brandy Gillmore: 9:01

However, I want to emphasize, it takes a real change, and so some people I've worked with will make the change, and I'll tell them you need to follow through, you have to embrace this new way of feeling and thinking, and then maybe they go home and their spouse triggers them, or they get upset at the kids or whatever else that you know they're from their specific mindset, and it triggers up and it comes back. The great thing is, though, is now they know what the emotional problem is, what the mindset shift is, and then they can just follow through to then get it gone, and then, once it's gone. Yeah, it stays gone. I mean, I have people who have been bedridden who now run. You know, one runs marathons, another one it's just all kinds of things. So, in other words, the reason I said yes and no and yes is it. Yes, there is follow through for genuine change, but once you genuinely change, then you don't have to keep following through.

Candace Fleming: 10:03

Wow, that is really amazing. I have a question Do you think there's a way to do that with a part of the body that's paralyzed?

Brandy Gillmore: 10:14

Yes, and I would say from personal experience, I've done that with people who are paralyzed also.

Candace Fleming: 10:19

Really, what was your experience of that?

Brandy Gillmore: 10:24

My experience. One person was from a stroke, another person and multiple people from MS, which was actually interesting in MS because one person, as they started to make the change, one of the first things that happened is their legs started jumping, initially paralyzed in a wheelchair, and then, as we started making the change, her legs started jumping. Now, what was interesting was that one time when I was showing her how to use her mind, she was sitting at a kitchen table when her legs first jump. It wasn't great, because then it hit the bottom of the table. So that's something to be laugh about. Oh, wow. But I mean, this is how I look at it is this? You asked the question. You said what is it that I do different in my work than manifesting? I would say there are a lot of key pieces. But if I were to simplify, is it okay? If we go there? Does that sound good? Yeah, okay. So if we simplify it, some key pieces that I've done differently to get these results is this Is that we know that stress affects the physical body, and something that was also really eye opening to me was also the awareness of multiple personality disorder, or it's now called disassociative identity disorder, but the awareness that people can have different illnesses when they're in different personalities. They can have high blood pressure in one but not in another. They can have asthma or allergies, extreme allergies or pain in one but not in another. Or there was even a research study of a woman who was blind in some personalities but not in another. That was medically documented, not like she's pretending to be, yeah.

Brandy Gillmore: 12:28

So basically what I started doing as I started simplifying it and I said, okay, how can I see that the mind affects the physical body? I said, okay, well, of course, emotions. If somebody's embarrassed, their face turns red. We all know that. I mean even emojis know that. Yeah, pretty well, yeah, but we can see the emotional physical response or panic attack. Yeah, somebody can have anxiety and panic and they can have those panic attacks, or even sexual thoughts, sexual physical response. And of course, I was a mess. So I thought, well, I'm going to need a lot more than emotions to heal my body. But then I started also looking at emotions such as broken heart syndrome, where somebody can actually die from a broken heart or scared to death. Somebody can be so scared their heart stops. Or even I mean there's research after study, after study, even after surgery. People who are more optimistic heal faster. Yeah, people who are, you know are stressed.

Brandy Gillmore: 13:35

They're healing so much slower, more complications, right yeah, and I mean so many. There's one study after another, after another. I mean even new research even suggests that autoimmune conditions are caused by stress, and so there's all of these different studies. Or even last year, the Surgeon General released a statement about loneliness, how it can increase things like type 2 diabetes, and so we can see all of these things everywhere.

Brandy Gillmore: 14:06

And so I started looking at it and said, ok, well, ok, I know this, and there was a few things. So one thing I did is I looked at it also objectively and I said, ok, well, sure, stress can affect the body, we know that. But I could also see people who were really, really stressed, maybe PTSD, who weren't sick how is that possible? And then people who were, so to speak, less stressed, who had major illnesses, and what I started to realize is that it takes a combination of emotions, that that was another key, and a simple way to think about it is if somebody wants to bake a cake and they have flour, they don't, they can't make cake. But if they have flour and they mix it with eggs and butter, and other ingredients, yada.

Brandy Gillmore: 14:52

then they can make cake, and of course, illness is not cake.

Candace Fleming: 14:55

But right.

Brandy Gillmore: 14:57

But point being is, different ingredients create a different recipe, and that's why somebody like when I started looking at you know, mpd. That's how it could be possible for a person to have illness in one personality but not another, and even have a personality that's completely that has no medical issues whatsoever, and so so that was so. One thing was understanding that there's a combination, and and that was key and one way to think about this combination. If you will like, if we make it super simple, we could say this we could say that somebody who maybe has been sick for a long period of time, illness might become part of their identity, the way they see themselves, and so to heal, they would need to update their self image. Or another thing is, we know that fear can create feelings of fight or flight, and so when you take that and then you mix it with other ingredients, and then you maybe also somebody might feel unloved. So then there's loneliness, and so when you add up these different things, there's key. There's key categories of emotions, and some people who are very loved still have illness. So there's key combinations.

Brandy Gillmore: 16:10

So, basically, that's what I did. Differently is I said a few things. I said, okay, there's combinations, that's key. What are the combinations? And then, another thing that I did differently was I said, okay, well, different emotions, clearly differently embarrassment, red face, sexual thoughts, sexual physical response. What are all the other emotions doing that we don't realize, like what is a banditman, or hurt, or rejection or anger or what are?

Brandy Gillmore: 16:40

those doing and so starting to realize that each one of those emotions, while we think they do nothing, they affect us, just like a panic attack and anxiety.

Candace Fleming: 16:50

Every emotion, yeah.

Brandy Gillmore: 16:52

They are affecting the physical body and if we take those emotions and then we look at the ingredients, that's the combination.

Candace Fleming: 17:01

Okay, so you started this? How long after your injury?

Brandy Gillmore: 17:07

I mean, I would say number one. I would say I am not sure, because when you don't sleep and you're told that you don't really feel like you have a future, you don't know what day is. What day I'm going to tell you. It all kind of runs together, but I can say that I would say eight months, maybe a year. I would say maybe and that would be a really great guess and the reason I know. Like. So I was injured in 03, the picture of the wheelchair, of me in the wheelchair in a red dress, was from my sister's wedding in 05. And already by that point I had already said I'm going to be healed. By then, like I was telling myself, I'm going to be healed, I'm going to be walking down the aisle 100%, no cane, no wheelchair. So I had already been like declaring and telling everybody that in their lecture and then I healed by late 2009, 2010. So it still took years beyond that to figure it out because I had been doing everything wrong.

Candace Fleming: 18:16

So once you started to figure this out about using your mind on healing pain, how did you? How long did it take you to get from the wheelchair to walking?

Brandy Gillmore: 18:32

So I would say this. So a few things. A lot of times people will see the wheelchair and they think I was paralyzed. I wasn't. I was a train wreck. So for me to walk a very short distance was extremely painful and I could do it like with a walker or a cane and it was. I was very labored, so it was hard. Certain muscle groups had stopped firing correctly, all of that and I had very poor balance and so so I wasn't wheelchair like I wasn't paralyzed. So there was that.

Candace Fleming: 19:02

So if you said like I think a better example is this because I was trying to figure it out, cause, yeah, I want people to see how you went from- the wheelchair so much pain cause they don't see who I see right now until they go hit Google and see this powerhouse woman who doesn't need any of that anymore and physically fit in everything. So I want them to be able to visually imagine how this pain went. You went from all of this pain to the healing process and where we are, how far you've come, so people can know, like this is not just something we're saying or you're just yelling out like oh well, yeah, I had an accident, I was hurt and now I'm doing, you know better a little bit, but no, this is a real, total transformation and it's going to change the lives of so many people and I really want them to get this visual of take us there, take, give us that visual.

Brandy Gillmore: 20:04

I would say this I a better, probably a better way to, to, to a way to visualize, I would say, is one. I would say there was ups and downs while I was trying to figure it out. I would say I went from relying on a cane and wheelchair and all of that to working out with bodybuilders as about five month period, and basically these bodybuilders because I, when I started going to the gym and I was weak and started like as so, basically I started figuring out how to get my pain down and I was like, oh my gosh, like this is, this is happening. And then I was so weak, I mean my, my legs felt like they were about the same size as my arms. I was, I was a mess, and so then I started, you know, working on building my strength back, and these bodybuilders in the gym said they were, they had been watching me and they said I've never seen anybody do what you've done. If you want to work out with us, you can. And I was like, of course, and so I. So I started working out with them and it was and I mean to give you an idea, you know, when I got rid of my cane, I was like, okay, I'm just going to do this. And and I was still like things along the way.

Brandy Gillmore: 21:15

I mean there was a progression. For example, because I had worked with a cane or a walker for so long, or wheelchair, I was not used to being able to keep my own balance, and so one thing that I did is I would, as I was getting better, is I sat like on a yoga ball and I would tilt it a little bit to the side and then put my foot out to just retrain my reflexes, because what would happen is basically my whole balance. Everything was really off. But I think that probably a better example is this is a woman came into my course and it took her to go from bedridden to walking. About nine months is what it took her and then two months later she walked her first mini marathon. You know how they have the turkey trot type of thing. So she didn't run it, but she had to go from.

Brandy Gillmore: 22:09

Yeah. So I would say I mean I did everything wrong and I was trying to figure it out, and so it's hard to really give a timeframe, especially when you're surviving and you don't really care about time anymore. It was just really about getting better, but that's what I would say is so. I like to be impeccable with my words and it's hard to put an exact, and this is what I would say is also because I don't know if you've ever done this, and maybe anybody who's working on yourself maybe you decide to start doing something for yourself and then something comes up where you like a family member's upset about X, y, z and you kind of don't put yourself as much as a priority. So it was. I had distractions also, or ups and downs, or stresses that then would knock me off kilter and I was figuring it out. You know, it's just-.

Candace Fleming: 23:06

So you have a book that we can get on Amazon. What is the name of the book? And I have some questions about it.

Brandy Gillmore: 23:15

It is called Master your Mind and Energy to Heal your Body.

Candace Fleming: 23:20

Now this book this read. Does the book include? Does it tell us how we can do this from home ourselves, or is it something that we have to come to you in order to start the process?

Brandy Gillmore: 23:34

with. The book is so packed with information. It is packed Like the first part of it is actually my journey of discovery of okay, I found this. It was to me that those were the important things. What do I need to do? What was the insight that got me to the next one, to understand my mind? So it's funny. So you asked me about time. At that time, time was irrelevant. What was it? Important was the data part of it, and that was you know. To be honest, when you're in that spot, it's kind of like I don't know. In your life do you ever feel like time is just passing by and you go oh my God, it's a year later.

Candace Fleming: 24:12

Absolutely. Do you ever feel Absolutely? It seems to go faster and faster the older I get.

Brandy Gillmore: 24:19

And that I mean, and not only that, but time became a painful thing because I saw people's lives progressing without mine, like and you see people, oh, they went off and got married, oh, this one, and you're grateful and happy for them, and then at the same time you're like God, my life has been stagnant for seven years, injured. So you kind of like, just it becomes a painful topic of time, so you kind of check out as much as you can on that note. You know what?

Candace Fleming: 24:46

I mean yeah, yeah for sure.

Brandy Gillmore: 24:48

So anyways, but again the book has the important things like the research going. Okay, well, there's this and this, and so that's what part one is about. What did I figure out? Which delves into even more, about understanding it, because to me once I understood it, then it was easier to then implement. And then part two is the process.

Brandy Gillmore: 25:11

That says here is the four step process and to kind of give more context to when I said I was doing everything wrong, one thing like there were pivotal moments for me that helped me to gain so much more clarity, and one of them is this is I had been in this state of meditating and binaural beats and frequencies and guided meditations and silent meditations and ashrams. I was like ashram music, I mean literally everything you could think of, and I was doing this for like hours and hours a day, many hours. And one of my friends, her aunt, was actually passing from lung cancer and she called me up and she said hey, do you wanna go say goodbye? And I said yes, of course, and so she came and she picked me up and we went there and as I was saying goodbye to this beautiful soul, it dawned on me she had been in hospice for several months and been in and out of consciousness and I thought to myself just when I saw her.

Brandy Gillmore: 26:20

I thought to myself, gosh, that's what I must look like. And I thought, well, if this state of relaxation was so healing, then why hasn't she healed? Why hasn't anybody in their final days healed from the particular illness or ailment? And that was really. There was just certain pivotal insights and I saw that I was like I can't lay here and just listen to binaural beats and be in a hypnosis and Delta state and Theta state, like I need to figure this out. So it was that there was key insights that were just pivotal along the way that helped me to realize that I needed to get more clarity to do what I needed to do.

Candace Fleming: 27:03

What you just said made me think of something else, so this helped you. You figured out how to bring the pain down. Does this also include healing the illnesses?

Brandy Gillmore: 27:19

Yes, so, and this is the way I see it is first and foremost to give you an example. You know I've seen I worked with a woman who had a tumor in her throat and the tumor had been there several months. She had tried everything to get rid of it and basically right before her surgery so it wasn't going away. She scheduled surgery. She had another MRI. They could see that the tumor was five millimeters. You could see it protruding from her throat. Her surgery was scheduled for Friday. Her and I worked on Thursday and the tumor disappeared.

Candace Fleming: 27:59

Wait, wait. I need to backtrack. Can you say that one more time? I just want to make sure I heard it right, because I feel like I heard something wrong.

Brandy Gillmore: 28:06

Okay, so she had a tumor in her throat, right, right. It had been there for like four or five months. Four or five months got it, and she had tried everything to get rid of it and it wasn't going away. Didn't go away. So she scheduled a surgery. She had a pre-op MRI which showed the tumor was there in her throat, the tumor there Five millimeters, yeah, five millimeters. And so that pre-op MRI, then she was scheduled for surgery that Friday, that Friday, that's only a couple of days.

Brandy Gillmore: 28:38

Only a couple of days. Her and I worked on Thursday, the day before surgery, and we worked and as we did her tumor went away. Now she didn't really believe. She thought, oh, that must have just moved or something like that.

Brandy Gillmore: 28:54

Cause the idea of it, you know, going away. But either way, I always tell people always, always, always, see your doctors, even if you think the issue is always, always, always so either way. She showed up for surgery the next day and she was like, well, I think, can you check if it's there? And the hospital was like no, no, no, we're sure it's still there. She's like can you check? They're like no, we're sure. So they got her all drugged up and everything for it and she was like with the doctor right before. She was like, can you just just double check? And he they couldn't find it. And and he's, he's. He said as an ENT, he's been at ENT for 30 years and never seen anything like that in his 30 years of practice.

Candace Fleming: 29:35

Oh, my goodness.

Brandy Gillmore: 29:38

That's a major. It's amazing and incredible, and we all know that stress affects the body. So it's, it's not, it's. I mean, she did it, she embodied the change.

Brandy Gillmore: 29:51

And then I've seen people also who message in, who have RA, you know, rheumatoid arthritis, and their numbers are off the charts. And then they email back in and their pain is gone, their feet are no longer inflamed, their inflammation is gone, and they're like look at my numbers. My doctor can't, like, can't believe this has actually happened and everything's normalized and and and it's incredible and and that's the reason that I wanted to start showing it under medical equipment is it's not that I'm so amazing to heal? I mean, yes, I'm amazing, but we're all amazing beings. Wow, this is this is. What's incredible, though, also is even the Bible, 3000 years ago, says a Mary heart is a medicine to the body. Ill thoughts will dry the bones, and we have known throughout history, like every spiritual practice, and then even, of course, more recently, in the 1970s, it was proven stress affects the immune system, stress affects the body. I mean, we see it back to back to back everywhere and it's like OK, well, instead of just saying that stress affects us, what if we start undoing this?

Candace Fleming: 30:58

Wow, that that's, that's mind blowing, legit mind blowing, that I had to have you repeat it twice.

Brandy Gillmore: 31:06

Oh, so the great thing is. By the way, just so you know, there is actually a video on my website of this woman standing outside of the hospital in tears and she's like she. She did it on Facebook live just for her her friends and family. She was like guys. And she's like my surgery just was canceled and I got my $1,200 co-pay back and I'm going to go shopping Good for her Right. But you can see she's literally standing outside of the hospital in tears.

Candace Fleming: 31:38

Wow, do you know how many people you've helped?

Brandy Gillmore: 31:42

Do I know I have a video course now and I do classes, and so I, you know, I like to be impeccable with my words and I can just say I would say in two ways. I would say that I would say number one a lot.

Brandy Gillmore: 31:59

And I would say number two, they've helped themselves because basically that's what happens People heal themselves, so I don't do it. But what's beautiful is even yeah, it's just so, I mean, with the classes. Sometimes there'll be 250 people in a class or something like that, and so I couldn't even corner.

Candace Fleming: 32:20

I would have a hard time knowing so at this point after hearing this information, if I was a listener, I'd be like tell me where to go. How do I make this happen for myself? Like I don't want to wait. I just tell me. How do they find out where? How do they get this information? How did they get to you? Are they doing one-on-ones with you, or is it the video that goes out? Tell us about what the next step is for those who are looking to get to just experience.

Brandy Gillmore: 32:50

Yeah, this is what I would say Get the book. Like, get the book, because when we understand how to do it, this is what's great We've all heard of, like, you know, meditation, or positive thinking, or letting go of trauma, healing, or you know it's so. So, basically, what I've done is I've been doing it. Basically. What I've done is just taken it and say, okay, how do we just, how do we get results? Because I want to emphasize, I make it look really easy. And that's what I literally say at the end of every video or every recording that I do, when I like when I work with people and show them how to shift out of pain. I literally say, like end of every everything I say I make this look really easy. And it is because number one, a few things I've been working with the mind for a long period of time and I understand it in a different way than people do, and and so. So that's what I would say. I would say get the book, understand it. Because it's kind of like this when people go to work with their mind, they a lot of times just try to do everything all at once. Now, let's be honest, if we go to put on our pants. Let's say, we put on our shoes before we put on our pants it would feel like it's really hard to get dressed in the morning, like it's impossible, right? You know, if we said, oh well, I'm going to drive a car and then I'm going to put the like, then I'm going to start it, we'd be like my car won't drive and it's like. Or even if we go to speak words or the alphabet, there is an order to everything we do. Yes, you know, if we go to eat food and then cook it, you know, or like, there's an order to literally everything we do. And when it comes to working with the mind, people are like let me just do this and do this. There's an order. Like, every time I work with somebody, there is an order that makes it doable, that makes it to be able to get results. So I would say, just under the more we understand how to do it, because it does take an understanding. And then what's really great, though, is I'll see people who go through the video course all the time, who go through my video course, go, oh my gosh, like I just released my own pain, I just released my headaches, I just and it's incredible what we're capable of. But a simple way to think about it is like this Imagine if everybody's walking around, with a bunch of people walking around with a panic anxiety attack and they didn't know it was connected to emotions and they were like I don't know my heart's racing, my chest is beating, like I don't even know why, just run this test run and they're like, oh my God, how do I get this to stop?

Brandy Gillmore: 35:21

And then they address anxiety and it goes away. But what we don't realize is the foot pain. The health issue has some type of emotion connected to it and if we just really address it and I'm talking about, by the way, I want to say it because I always say I make it look easier than it is there are a lot of misconceptions in working with the emotions. For example, all the time people will say something like, oh, I've forgiven this person, and they think that it means the emotion is gone, which would be like somebody opening their refrigerator, seeing old food sitting there and saying I forgive you, and then closing the refrigerator and saying, well, now it's gone. Well, no, you may have forgiven it, but it is not gone, it is still there.

Candace Fleming: 36:12

That's hilarious. Actually, I've actually experienced that before too, because I'm a big forgiver. That is a big thing for me. And then one time the emotion came back and I was like whoa, does that mean I didn't forgive? It's like no, you have to deal with that emotion right now, and that's okay.

Brandy Gillmore: 36:30

Exactly Well said. I love your awareness Absolutely, I would say. Another key insight is this is if we look a little, if we go to a little technical here for just a second, if we look at things like repetition, compulsion, reenactments or attachment theory, we know that patterns breed more of the same, that our brains have a tendency to repeat patterns. In a simple way we can think about this is in two ways. One we could think about it simply that maybe somebody has a pattern of guilt or a pattern of self-criticism or anger or hurt or or wounding or rejection or abandonment. There's a pattern, or even we've heard before in psychology that unfortunately, a woman can have an abusive father and leave him and find the abusive boyfriend, boss, spouse, etc. Etc. That pattern can continue, and so part of what happens is we get sucked into these patterns and we don't even realize that we're sucked into a pattern, and then it perpetuates. And so healing doesn't just require changing an emotion, it requires real change of a pattern. And a way to illustrate this further is sometimes people will think oh well, if I do trauma healing, that's enough. And I would say trauma healing is typically not gonna be enough to heal the physical body that we need to get that pattern.

Brandy Gillmore: 37:55

And a way to illustrate this is imagine for a moment if somebody has a pattern of feeling rejection or abandonment or something like that. Now there's a couple of things. Number one they can. The pattern can be continuing, like they might feel a little bit today and a little bit tomorrow and a little bit last week and a week before, and so it's ongoing, and then they might have some major traumas around it, like maybe their husband left or their dad left when they were a kid, and so they both have a trauma, but that patterned way of feeling is still there and so they'll go. Well, I cleaned up my traumas, but the pattern is still there and if you still have that feeling, it can still affect the body and then further.

Brandy Gillmore: 38:40

What happens is a lot of times because these patterns remanifest, they over and over and over. If somebody has had this pattern of, let's say, rejection or abandonment, then what happens is, let's say, in their relationship now they might be insecure, or they might be jealous, or they their spouse is five minutes late and they're upset, and then what happens, of course, is, as they're upset and insecure and upset or jealous, then they ruin the relationship, which then equates to more abandonment. And so it's like the wounding creates the perception, creates the behavior, creates and manifests the thing all over again. And so when we stay in these cycles, then we go well, why isn't my body healing? Well, no, you wanna heal, you have to like. That's what I say, it's real change.

Candace Fleming: 39:30

That's key. That's something I've actually learned very recently, or at least within the last three years or so. Is that and people say it all the time if you want something different, you have to do something different. You can't keep doing the same things. Especially, we noticed this in relationships. Trying to change them it's oh, I'll be better, I'll be better, but you have the same pattern, so you have to change those patterns. So I definitely agree with that 100% and I can see how that makes a big difference. Even with the healing, the trauma healing and all of that. It's yeah, you may have worked through those things, but what changed in your behaviors?

Brandy Gillmore: 40:09

So you're gonna get the same things, even though you may have healed from past, but you're gonna have new ones because those patterns didn't change Exactly and spot on, and what's, I would say, kind of the hard part or the key part is this Is it when we start to also realize that our emotions control our perception? That is what's key. So I call it emotion controlled consciousness or emotion controlled perception, and it's like this. A simple way to illustrate it is we've all heard before if somebody's really, really, really in love, what do they see? They see all of the good in a person they see all of the good they know.

Brandy Gillmore: 40:52

They don't tell their brain hey, I'm in love with this person. Just filter and see all the good.

Brandy Gillmore: 40:57

Or if they've had a relationship and a connection where they're really upset or hurt or argument or whatever, the brain is automatically fault finding oh, there's this or there's that, or arguing, and that's automatic. And this happens at a deeper level in our mind from patterns that started when we were four or five years old, and so what's happening is that our perception of reality is constantly being shaped and we're perceiving things in a way that is consistent with our subconscious emotions, and so then it's hard to get out of these, because then we perceive in a certain way oh, he was five minutes late, she was 10 minutes. Oh no, that's disrespectful. I can't believe we take it. It's all of these triggers that happen and it perpetuates the problem.

Candace Fleming: 41:41

Yeah, oh my goodness, you just threw that on me and just I feel like, first of all, thank you, because I do feel like I'm doing some decent work within myself. But I did hear you mentioned the Bible earlier. Do you think that your spiritual connection has anything to do with helping the process of the physical pain?

Brandy Gillmore: 42:07

I would say yes and no, and yes and no. Okay, I would say that I would say I mentioned the Bible. But I would say that when I was injured at the time, I was actually not spiritual at all, and the only reason I mentioned the Bible is because I think it's important to give credit where credit is due. So even when it was published in the medical journal, I actually submitted to one medical journal and they said you're mentioning the Bible in here, like because, again, that's just the oldest way I found it written. So it's not about being religious or not religious. I would say I'm not, the Bible isn't. I would say I'm spiritual, not religious. So I would say the Bible is not typically what I'm gonna, it's not really my thing.

Brandy Gillmore: 42:50

I did grow up of Lutheran faith, but I would say that at the time I was injured, I would say I was agnostic, I was not at all into religion and so. But I would say integrity is super important to me. And so then I didn't publish in that medical journal. I published in a different one because of that very reason, because I said, look it, I'm clear on what I've discovered and whoever discovered other things, that's where credit is due, and so I published it in another and I said look, this is written in the Bible, it's written in metaphysics, it's written you know, and so I. And even when I say you know, stress affects the physical body, which is psychoneuroimmunology, I did not discover that, so I'm happy to say these people have all discovered this. There are things that I figured out, yes, yeah, and so that's more so what it's about.

Brandy Gillmore: 43:45

But as far as spiritual, I would say this I would say that we don't need to necessarily. I would say the awareness that our thoughts help create our lives. If we have that awareness and we can come from that place, that can allow us to then look at negative patterns and be willing to make that change and also help us to get an excitement about our future, as to what we can change, and that, I think, is key. So, whether you wanna call it and I always say this whether you wanna call it God, universe, divine energy, mother nature, energy, woo-woo and I like the woo-woo, by the way, so I'm not saying that in a drug story- Right, right, openness, openness, gotcha.

Brandy Gillmore: 44:33

And that's why.

Candace Fleming: 44:33

I said it, I had asked about a post-so religious, healing spiritual, because you can believe in many different things. It doesn't have to be a religion, so belief system.

Brandy Gillmore: 44:45

Exactly, but I would say I just believe if it was written in something before the Bible then I would be saying, hey, there's this. So it's just giving credit where credit is, and being able to see this is literally. This is my other thing. This information that our minds that a merry heart is a medicine to the body ill thoughts will dry the bones has been around for thousands of years. I would love to see our generation this time where we make it a reality and where it says merry heart is a medicine to the body.

Brandy Gillmore: 45:21

Harvard ran a 20 year study on emotional vitality and basically optimism that showed that we could reduce coronary heart disease by over 50%. Now coronary heart disease is the number one cause of death. And so we go. Wait a second awesome job. Harvard, laura Kibcianski did that and awesome job. And we can also see like a merry heart is a medicine is written in the Bible.

Brandy Gillmore: 45:47

So let's do this now, like, let's start seeing the change. Let's all you know, and so that's really whatever spiritual. I always tell people I don't wanna make it religious, because I think to be able to make a real change, I think that we need two things we need people to get results and understand why they're getting results, and we need to all agree on why it's working. Cause if one person says, oh, it's God, it's Buddha, it's Jesus, it's energy, it's metaphysics, it's quantum physics, then we're never gonna be able to create a real shift. And so if we just come back to the awareness that okay, whatever you wanna call it, it starts in the mind, and if we can just create this shift with emotions, we can create a real change.

Candace Fleming: 46:30

Brandy, you have been an absolute pleasure, you have been a powerhouse and I am grateful to have you on the show Again. I want to be. Is there any last words? You wanna leave us with our audience, cause we are running on our time And-.

Brandy Gillmore: 46:48

Absolutely, you know. I just wanna say, Candace, I love your heart, I love your awareness, I just I love your smile and I'm just grateful to be here, and just those same words that I would love to see every single person healthy and happy and living their best life, and so my hope is that everybody gets the book and just starts implementing it.

Candace Fleming: 47:07

Tell us the name of the book again and where to find it.

Brandy Gillmore: 47:11

It is Master your Mind and Energy to Heal your Body, and it is available in bookstores all around and Barnes & Noble, amazon, anywhere to buy books.

Candace Fleming: 47:21

That is so awesome. Thank you so much. How about any social media? Do you have anywhere? You want people to follow you.

Brandy Gillmore: 47:28

Absolutely, I'm all on social media Also. My website is brandygillmore. com and on it there is a tab that says See Live Healing and on it we had talked about the medical equipment earlier and wanting people to see hey, this is possible and so you can actually watch it under video, where Dr Hilary Smith is scanning a person and I'm showing them to release their pain and you can see it live on the scan. So that's fun.

Candace Fleming: 47:55

Thank you, thank you, and, of course, you all can find me at CandiceFlim. You can email me CandiceFlimming at essentialmotivationcom. The website essentialmotivationcom, instagram, essentialmotivation LLC. Facebook, essentialmotivation. We look forward to hearing anything from you. Like, subscribe, follow Brandy, get her book because I'm reading it soon. It should be at my door shortly and I'm excited, so thank you, thank you, thank you and guests, please remember to love hard, forget often and laugh frequent. Thank you so much, brandy.

Brandy Gillmore: 48:32

I love it. Thank you, Candice Bye.

Candace Fleming: 48:36

Alright, right alright.